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Post by Scott Long on Nov 13, 2008 23:25:18 GMT -5
Mmmmkay, I've thought a lot but after Jun, I'll go a bit easier on you, lol
Congrats on making it this far!
David I really think you're a huge snake. You play all nice but are very selective on who you're legitimately nice to. Another thing that I don't like about you is that you weren't honest, when it didn't matter if you lied or not. At least when Daniele and Jen evicted me, they admitted that they didn't vote for me to my face. You just ignored me, and I don't have respect for that. My question for you is Why should I give you my vote when I really don't want to?
Daniele We were never on "bad" terms per se, but it was pretty much known that we were on opposite sides of the house. However, I do respect your gameplay, though I agree with what was said in that you weren't as social as David. My question for you is How important do you think the social game is to Big Brother and on a scale of 1-10 how well do you think you played socially and why?
Both I have a few questions for you.
1. As a completely egotistical person, I want to know 1 thing that each juror did to get you to your spot.
2. How is each player (jury and you 2) similar to the players they picked?
3. Why should Angie be there instead of you 2? (I'm serious about this question)
4. Rate the jurors based on their gameplay and say why you put it the way you did
5. Rate the jurors based on who you liked the most and say why.
That is all. They are not bad... ish...
Good luck.
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Post by David Lane on Nov 13, 2008 23:34:51 GMT -5
Let me preface this by saying that each reply of mine will be to answer a different Juror's questions. So let's Begin.
Libra, I want to start by saying wow. I have to say that your dislike for me surprises me a bit. The only reason I can think of is that you feel betrayed because I voted you out even though we were friends. You were against another person i was on close terms with and I ended up keeping the person I trusted more (I knew Jun from a previous game). I didn't use POV to save you because the plan was to backdoor Dan and Dan was one of my bffs in this game so it didn't make sense to do that. I wasn't "friends" with you to use you (i don't recall ever speaking with you one on one about a vote). I was friends with you because I enjoyed FINALLY having someone to talk about Heroes with. What exactly I did to give you this opinion of me I'm not sure. I seriously never had a negative opinion on you and I thought we both shared the same feelings about this just being a game and the whole point just being about who you met. You went as far as to tell me that you made jury and that was your goal so you didn't care to be voted (discussion we had when Jessie left). Whatever I did to you to make you dislike me this much I apologize for.
Now on to your questions. Daniele has many reasons about her for why she should win. Daniele was fierce at competitions tying for most HoH wins and POV wins. She won when she had to to get her to this point. Also, Dani helped lead the charge against the big alliance that would have gotten her out sooner. She exposed herself to Scott which bought her time in the game and aligned herself with the people she had to to get far. There was even a point in the game where there was no possible way to get her out (Angie's HoH). I <3 Dani and definitely give kudos to her on her game.
Now on to the comparisons. I've only watched BB 4, 6, 7, 9, and 10 so that's all i've got to go on.
Libra: I compare you to the real Libra. So much about you made me think of her. Gameplay wise you had your alliances but were a threat. To everyone i spoke to who i knew was aligned with you, they trusted you less and were afraid of your ties to others and your game. You left right after Jessie just like in the real BB and were the first Juror too. It's hard to shake comparing you to her with all that.
Scott: I'll compare Scott to Matt from BB9. He was in a powerful position within his alliance and gave orders to others. He was seen as a threat and because of his role in creating the s club 7 alliance was targeted by both Dan and Dani. He was one of the first targets of the S Club 7 because of this.
Brian: Brian to me was like the real Brian. He relied on alliances to get him far and schemed. It bit him in the butt when it caught up with him. He wasn't trusted by many. This caused for his eviction to happen much like Brian.
Jen: Jen is a tough cookie. Because of that I compare her to April (bb10). She was strong willed and had her own allies going and was loyal to them. She was good with everyone in this game from the beginning and early on did the S Club 7's bidding. I actually feared Jen in this game. She had a strong social game that i felt was going to take her to the end. April's problem on the show was that she had Keesha planting seeds against her. Jen didn't have this happen in the house. If we didn't evict her when we did i think she might have made it to the end.
Angie: Angie is the most loyal person i know and because of that I have to compare her to Keesha. Keesha would NOT vote out an ally if she got along with them and Angie was this way. There were points where her game suffered from this (ie: not putting Dan up against Dani during her HoH) but i definitely can't fault her for that because I felt the same way about the game as she did.
Jun: Jun's is a little difficult because of the limited seasons i've watched. I'm going to compare our Jun to the real Jun (i've only watched the first few episodes of BB4 but i'll go off of that). Jun was self confident and funny just like the real Jun. She relied on her allies to get her far. She aligned herself with the bigger targets in the house so that someone else would go before her. She was loyal to who she felt was the strongest (like Jun to Alison).
Dan: To me Dan was like Janelle. I know enough of Dan outside of this game to know that he is <3'd by everyone (much like Janie). Within the game, he was viewed as a threat to almost everyone. He was always a target but yet no one ever got to take him out. I'm sure he made for an interesting game outside of the players in the house and to me was my favoritest person to watch play. He was involved with drama as well as the game. He was a strong competitor and feared.
Daniele: I'll compare Daniele to James Rhine. Daniele had enough allies to keep her relatively safe from both sides even if everyone felt she was a threat. She excelled at competitions. Her and I tied for most competition wins but she won when she needed to. She never was on the block post veto because of either her or i winning and kept trucking along to the end. Had she been on the block post nominations she probably would have met the same fate as James.
Thanks Libra for at least giving me an equal opportunity for your vote. If i missed anything i apologize
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Post by David Lane on Nov 13, 2008 23:45:37 GMT -5
Jen, I think the biggest move i made in the house was NOT backdooring Dan when Scott asked me to when he was HoH and i won the veto. This changed the remainder of the game. If i had done what he wanted, Dan would have potentially left that week and I would have lost one of my closest allies. It was a move that I feel definitely changed the game as we'd probably have a completely different final 2 had I used the veto.
The second question is easy to answer. I choose Jen and Dan. I FEARED your social game knowing that everyone liked you. You were also good at competitions. I knew you were on your way to the final 2 from basically the second week when everyone was saying they loved you. This didn't necessarily cause me to target you but it was definitely always on my mind and is partially the reason I voted to evict you when I did. If we were final 4 I knew you'd take Dan and feared he'd take you. Dan is a also clearcut final 2 choice. He made it to the end by aligning with the right people and having a great personality. He also wasn't shy with competition wins. Dan was a great social player and EVEN though there was a huge target on his back he still managed to make it to the end. You 2 had very strong games and If Dani and I couldn't be here would definitely be the best choices.
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Post by Libra Thompson on Nov 13, 2008 23:46:41 GMT -5
Thank you both for your answers, and to be honest I had an idea who I was voting for going into the questioning, but after your questions I've changed my vote! Sorry I won't be around for the live finale, I'm sure it'll be a blast, and in the end I hold no hard feelings and after all its just a game!
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Post by Daniele Donato on Nov 13, 2008 23:56:48 GMT -5
lol thats ok Libra, I know I didn't answer the way you wanted Just answering honestly
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Post by Angie on Nov 14, 2008 0:30:24 GMT -5
it seems like all possible questions have been asked, so this has been very tough for me to come up with new ones... so im just gonna go with personal questions i want answers to that most probably will not affect my vote lol. i think everyone else asked the good game questions anyway.
daniele: when you found out about the 7 (david! LOL, i knew it haha), did u want us dead? lol, jk. you won hoh right after u told people u knew and u and david spoke to me in a chat discussing jessie and u "going back on your word?" how much of that was staged? lol.
david: how long before jessie and scott's eviction did u know u wanted them gone? And at what point did u start really trusting me? was there anything specific to lead up to that point?
and THANK YOU BOTH. good luck!
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Post by David Lane on Nov 14, 2008 0:41:46 GMT -5
Dan, YAY TRIPLE D! I didn't think we'd make final 3 but i made it a goal just to keep this game interesting. I took a risk with Triple D but it paid off cuz i got to know you more and <3 you!
Heh, your direct question to me is interesting because it's something that I get called out for a lot because it doesn't make sense to people. I'll try to answer your question as best I can. Outside of the game I hold zero grudges and currently hold 0 things against anyone. I'm all for being everyone's friend cuz there's a good quality about everyone. WITHIN the frameworks of the game there are people I don't gel with as much as others and people that do things that piss me off enough to rant against them. Speaking WITHIN the terms of the game (as opposed to outside of the game) there were two people i had points where i didn't like them. The night of the endurance that Dani won, Jessie had done SOOO MANY things to make me dislike him. I wanted Jessie out. I ranted about how stupid I thought he was being. He was making moves that DEFINITELY cost him the game and he was bringing me down with him (had I not been aligned with Triple D his actions would have caused for me to be nominated). I was happy to see Jessie go. He did tell me to vote him out so I didn't have guilt in the matter but I felt it was a godsend. Here's the thing, I'm still friends with Tyler (the person behind Jessie) and <3 him. I talk to him on AIM often and generally like him as a person. Within the walls of the game, though... i didn't. I wasn't "faking" liking him. I generally DO like the people behind the aliases even if i can't stand their gameplay. The other person I had negative opinions on was Scott. I felt he just barked orders at me (which makes sense considering he's busy and didn't have time to talk enough to form strategies together). I liked him up until the last PM i sent him. He responded very negatively to that PM and so I cut off communication with him. I didn't trust him anymore and felt he wanted me out so I helped in getting him out. To avoid faking niceness I hesitated talking to him. I didn't want to be "fake" so i just kept my distance. After his eviction I know he was a bitter juror against me. Up until recently i didn't like scott because i felt he didn't like me (i laughed at myself in my DR over that reasoning). That's a horrible reason not to like someone so I dropped it and contacted him in another game. I'm back to not having a negative opinion about Scott either. I know he despises me but for now i can't do anything about it for fear of being pegged as "just trying to get a jury vote" so i'll wait till after the game to try and settle that. The thing is, these are games and it seems ludicrous to me to carry a grudge over a random game with random people that you don't even really know. Worst case is I won't want to play with the person again but besides that I'm 100% okay with all ORG players. So yeah, THAT'S why I'm always nice. it isn't because I am trying to trick them into liking me. It's because this game is gonna end and I'm setting it up so i can keep talking to them after the game.
I NEVER plotted to get you out but there were certain circumstances where I had made up my mind that i would evict you if the circumstance arose. If you were ever on the block against Dani i would have voted you out. I would have hated to but I know it's what i would have done. Also, you know I was close to Angie... and you also know I had problems voting her out and even nominating her. If you had gone on the block against Angie I would have had a difficult time and would have voted to evict you. I definitely kept a watchful eye to never have any of these circumstances occur. This is why i said that even if i didn't want Angie to leave, it made the game easier to me.
Dani smells and sucks! haha, jk. I've been avoiding throwing Dani under the bus just to try and win but then you go and ask this evil question >:(. haha, I promised honesty and so I will answer your question. Daniele shouldn't get votes simply for being good at competitions. We tied for competition wins and so the vote needs to be based on more than that. A big part about Dani's game was the lack of socialness. Yes, she talked to people enough to make people know she played but she rubbed people the wrong way. While you had a big target on you back, Dani became a target by association and when we got rid of the people targeting you, all that was left were people targeting Dani. Dani's weak social game put her at risk and so put us at risk. This was especially evident during the 2nd snap eviction twist. This in turn made it so it was important for Triple D to represent in competitions. It definitely made the game more challenging and fun, though.
Heh, long answer. Hope that answered your question. I've been doing these one after the other so my brain is a little fried. I'm going to take a break and then tackle Jun and Scott's questions. If i missed anything in anyone's questions please reask it as my point isn't to avoid any questions. :)
edit: and Angie's since it was posted too.
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Post by Daniele Donato on Nov 14, 2008 0:45:33 GMT -5
Hey Dan!
You were a phenomenal ally and friend and I enjoyed playing with you. To answer your questions, I take it you did not get a good look at the final HoH results. We had like a 10 question tiebreaker. If I wanted to throw it I wouldn't of been tieing so much lol. So no, I was not throwing it. I NEVER throw competitions, which I would say is my biggest weakness. I am a competitor at heart. If I won I really debated this for weeks. I knew if we made it it would come to this. In a way I was hoping you would of won and taken me - but if I won I would have taken David out of our original deal. He also threw part 1 to me, but I'm sure he factored in his level of tiredness when he made that decision lol.
There is only one time in the game where I ever wanted you out. The first week, and you already know this. I wanted you and April out because I heard how tight the two of you were. But after she left we got close and I never wanted you out. =]
David's a friend but since this is a game I'll answer honestly like I said I would even though I don't like trash talking. David always says "I play for friends" "I can't backstab" "I <3 everyone" I play for the game and he plays for friends. Friends are just a bonus. I do not sign up for the games to make friends like does - I'm here to play. He claims he plays for friends and then ends up backstabbing a lot of people. I do not think thats the best strategy. He had issues with putting up Angie and would not want to vote her out. But whats different from Angie than the others he claims to <3? So yea I hope you vote for someone who wasn't being fake a lot of the time. I played pretty straight up.
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Post by Dan Gheesling on Nov 14, 2008 1:01:13 GMT -5
lol I love your guys' answers, made me think a lot about you to.
Again, congrats on winning and I'm SO looking forward to the rest of the questions. :]
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Post by Scott Long on Nov 14, 2008 1:08:12 GMT -5
Ftr, David, I'm only bitter in this game, it doesn't carry over, lol
Though you're never getting a Pop Challenge Pass ever again mwa mwa ha...
Just kidding
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Post by Daniele Donato on Nov 14, 2008 1:39:49 GMT -5
I'll get to Jun's and Scott's later as they are a bit more lengthy lol So here is Angie's: it seems like all possible questions have been asked, so this has been very tough for me to come up with new ones... so im just gonna go with personal questions i want answers to that most probably will not affect my vote lol. i think everyone else asked the good game questions anyway. daniele: when you found out about the 7 (david! LOL, i knew it haha), did u want us dead? lol, jk. you won hoh right after u told people u knew and u and david spoke to me in a chat discussing jessie and u "going back on your word?" how much of that was staged? lol. david: how long before jessie and scott's eviction did u know u wanted them gone? And at what point did u start really trusting me? was there anything specific to lead up to that point? and THANK YOU BOTH. good luck! Of course I did [not dead, evicted lol], I knew the 7 needed to be broken up. But with David and Jun, it was the "5" to me. And at that point I was good with Jen. But I knew it was still a group so I didn't feel very safe. By talking to several people I found out the 7 really didn't like eachother all too much. (As in certain people wanting others out) But yes, I did make it my mission to take out all of the 7 and Jessie leaving Triple D and Jun in the final four. (Mission from my first HoH) And yes, that chatroom was 100% staged. XD David and I were talking about the best way to get Jessie up, and as you were close with Jessie I wanted to make it clear I was not nominating you and you'd be ok with me. So we made a chat and I gave my "reasonings" for putting up Jessie. Which of course weren't my real reasons. I did get the feeling you were going to be after me - our conversations were pretty much short. Majority of my conversations with you, Scott, Brian, and Libra were very short due to the fact I knew you were already on the opposite side of me. I couldn't have the chance to make any alliance for the fact I knew you were already part of one. But thanks for giving me a chance with your question
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Post by Scott Long on Nov 14, 2008 1:47:13 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that you didn't even try to start something Daniele, you make me sound so closed-minded...
Also, you can answer this now cuz it only takes 2 seconds. Who told you about the 7?
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Post by Daniele Donato on Nov 14, 2008 1:52:00 GMT -5
I'm disappointed that you didn't even try to start something Daniele, you make me sound so closed-minded... Also, you can answer this now cuz it only takes 2 seconds. Who told you about the 7? I wasn't going to start something with someone who was leading the alliance. lol And here is why I didn't. DanieleURTV4 (8:49:39 PM): I haven't made any alliance yet scotturtv4 (8:51:20 PM): eh, i really haven't either I KNEW that was a straight up lie so I was not going to align with you and for me, you could not be trusted. Plus giving an invite to the other six people made me feel like you had a lot of other closer bonds. And David showed me the i-m of the invitation. Jun later filled me in with who was running things and what not.
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Post by David Lane on Nov 14, 2008 2:50:08 GMT -5
Lol Jun, you prefaced your SBB questions this way also (i went to check as soon as you threatened us with the evilness of your jury questions).
1. I'd nullify Scott's vote. He took what i did hard and considers me a snake. As you can see, he even said he doesn't want to vote for me. In this instance it's clear what way he is leaning and since it is not towards me I have to choose him.
2. I started answering this in Dan's question about digging up Dani's dirty laundry. She isn't a strong social player and she tied with me in competition wins. Her strategy involved relying on alliance and wins to get to the end. My strategy involved relying on social game, alliance, and wins to get to the end. She claims to have been straightforward but many of her decisions in this game were based on personal feelings that she wasn't so eager to share. Though Dani definitely had a good game that cannot be denied, there were definite holes in her game.
3. Aligning with triple D was my first critical move. Dan, Dani, and myself were good at competitions and from the time we formed Triple D, Dani and myself have traded off veto wins. This alliance was a strong alliance and with our ties within the house helped us get to final 3. My second critical move was voting to keep you during the snap eviction. I didn't feel safe with Scott and felt safer with you as I had positioned myself for you to see me as your Peih-Gee. I knew your game enough to know you keep those who you feel you manipulate best safe. This is why i was so eager to "believe" you when you PM'd me leading up to forming the deal with Dan and Dani. My third most critical move was winning the final 3 HoH. At this point I do believe Dani was planning on taking me final 2 but she did mention definitely having second thoughts and in the spur of the excitement, decisions could be changed. The only true way to guarantee final 2 is to win the last HoH and that's what I did.
4. My worst move was trusting everyone when it came to the second snap eviction. The way points were calculated you were supposed to be the replacement nominee when I saved Daniele. We didn't know how the vote would go but me using veto put 2 of my allies in danger instead of just one. If I had left nominations the same, we would have had 3 votes to keep Dani and the whole tie-breaker and scare wouldn't have happened to us. Heh, in a move to protect one ally i risked 2 others. Not only that, but I'm sure me using that POV and everything that followed was a shock to both Scott and Brian which definitely made them leaving not as pleasant as it could have been. I definitely blame not knowing how things would work out when it came to voting.
5. Jen was my biggest target because I knew she had a strong social game and was positioned to make it to final 2 with the way she was playing. She also had a lot of allies who I knew trusted her and I needed her out. The biggest threat to a social player is another social player, lol. Brian was also a target for me. At first he was inactive but then seemed to get a free ride with the 7. After a while he emerged and started making deals. I saw him as a threat when it came to getting people out and I did not trust him after Scott warned me about him. Finally, the third threat was Jessie. He was a threat because he liked to open his mouth and definitely take people down with him. He wasn't specifically targeting me but he was targeting my allies and so I needed him gone. He went as far as to threaten to nominate me as a pawn so early in the game. He had to go.
6. List: Libra - Brian spearheaded this eviction Scott - Dan didn't like him and wanted him out Brian - Me. I didn't trust him and didn't feel safe. Angie - Daniele. She said she saved Dan and made him promise he'd vote her out. Jen - Me. Dan was going to keep her, Dani was going to keep you... I was deciding vote. Jun - Me. The fact i was in triple D led me to evict you. Dan - Me. I had choice for final 2 and I chose Dani.
7. Dan would definitely be a great candidate for allstars. He's a great social player and friends with many of the people already playing. He had a good game which carried him to final 3. Daniele would also definitely be a great candidate for allstars. She was a great player and knew her game. She's a competition beast and making final 2 alone is reason to give her a spot. I'd also select me. I had a good game which got me to the end. My mistakes were pissing too many people off because they mistook my friendship for being exclusive. I'm up for being friends with everyone, lol. Jen is the fouth person. She had a very strong social game which I feared and would have definitely made it to the end. Considering who Jen is in real life, she definitely changed her game up and was a serious threat.
8. I chose to play as David Lane because my real name is David and i wanted to have a reason to create a "main" account for AIM. That and since I am all for making friends it makes it easier and nicer when people know me as David and aren't just talking to my alias. I still get referred to as "James" because of sbb and it always irks me, lol.
9. Had David been taken I would have probably played as Memphis. At the time of signups I didn't dislike Memphis and was rooting for the Renegades. Everyone else was picking BB10 characters and the other males I liked were on hold for allstars so Memphis would have been my choice.
10. As soon as you posted your reply in the kitchen I had flashbacks of your posts at sbb4. You sang basically the same song and referred to yourself as Iron Chef Jun. I figured I'd just keep my distance and talk to you to see if you were in fact Kyle. You used the same manner of speech when it came to forming our deal during the first HoH. The next day Dani writes me telling me you have the same birthday on SBB and that basically confirmed it. After that Dani would fill me in on your ideas and "work you" when needed (ie: voting out Libra instead of Sharon).
11. Heh, another mean question. I don't think Sharon is deserving of an allstars spot. She was a bit of a spaz and didn't rub people the right way. That and she became very inactive. Libra didn't deserve an allstars spot because of inactivity. This game requires you to be very active. Libra had a good game going for her but the inactivity would rule out good allstars potential as I assume she'd still be busy with work. Finally, Jessie does not deserve an allstars spot. He was a sinking ship and basically destroyed any game he had the night of the endurance. Instead of keeping a level head he brought out his inner Howie and basically ruined his whole game for himself only 4 weeks into the game.
12. Awards: a. Blondest - I'd definitely give this award to Sharon. She seemed like an innocent blond without any cares other then her little gerbils. She definitely didn't last long with the way she interacted with others and on the boards.
b. Most Shocked at Elimination - I'd give this to Brian. He didn't expect the twist to work out as badly as it did for him. He also didn't expect that Jen and myself would pick Dan/Jun over him.
c. Most loyal - Angie by far is the most loyal person you'll ever find in an ORG. She doesn't have a mean bone in her and I don't think would have ever betrayed any of her allies.
d. Biggest floater - The biggest floater was Jun Song. Sorry, lol. You made it to final 4 without winning a single competition because you went between alliances and never had to show your true loyalty with decisions (outside of voting).
e. Best Villain - This one definitely goes to Jameka. Bitch was fierce! After i voted her out I found out who she was and her reaction to the vote was hilarious. We then got to see just how bad she was in one of the following POV's that asked questions about her housecalls interview. She had quite the mouth on her and spouted fire at Keesha. It was definitely an interesting read and I can't wait to see the whole list.
f. Most oblivious - Jessie was most oblivious. He caused quite a stir the night of the first endurance and created a huge target on his back. He felt he was safe but didn't see the total damage his actions had caused. He threatened Jen to put her up as a pawn if he won. He told Dan he was going to nominate him and Dani if he won. When Jen got angry he told me he was going to nominate me as a pawn instead of Jen. He had to have been oblivious to not see how this all would definitely cause him to be evicted. Had he just made the deal and dropped, Dani wouldn't have had a reason to nominate him other than not liking him from previous experience.
g. Most entertaining - Dan is definitely the most entertaining! He can spout his mouth off when angry and definitely caused his own share of drama. Him and Jessie got in a fight and after that him and Brian did too. The things he would say were hilarious. Besides that he's a really good person and easy to talk to so whenever i was bored i could always hit him up to undo my boredom.
Bonus: Kel loves orange soda!
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Post by David Lane on Nov 14, 2008 4:17:38 GMT -5
Scott,
Tackling the first thing you said I thought I was honest with you about my votes. I was definitely hesitant but in both cases told you what I was doing before actually doing them. I was going through a semi-hard time that night because I was looking out for Angie's best interests too and I knew keeping you would be better for her but I didn't feel safe with you after your response of not trusting me for not backdooring Dan. I didn't mean to be perceived as a Snake, nor did i mean to be selectively nice to people. I thought I was nice to everyone including yourself. My biggest problem with you was that you never seemed to be online and so we never developed a strategy together. Normally you'd just tell me what to do. I understand that this is because we were never on at the same time so I can't blame you for that but during those times i definitely would get upset and think "all he does is bark orders at me." lol.
You should give me your vote only if you feel I played the better game. I don't want freebie votes but I ask that no juror vote bitter. The point is to crown the winner and whoever you feel deserves it is the person who should get your vote. If you personally don't want to give me your vote I can't force you to and I'll respect whatever decision you make. You already said in a later post that you won't hold this game against me anywhere else and that's all I can ultimately ask so I'm happy with whatever way you vote. Of course I'd love for you to vote me as winner but if it doesn't happen then it didn't happen.
Now for the questions to both of us:
1. How Jury Helped: Libra - Gave me early sanity in the game because I finally found someone to talk about Heroes with. I'd actually get excited come tuesday to talk to her, lol. I can be a nerd sometimes.. haha
Brian - Brian formed a final 4 between Jen, himself, Angie, and myself. He asked me to join which automatically means I had to say yes. This alliance brought me closer to Jen which kept me on good terms with her and kept her from targeting me.
Scott - You won 2 HoH's, kept me safe both times, and brought me into the S Club 7 alliance which ultimately protected me during the early game until I could let my social game take off.
Angie - Angie was the person I could EVERYTHING to and I knew had my back 100%. In turn, i returned this favor. I definitely consider her a close online friend and she gave me sanity in a game where everything turned chaotic often. She NEVER blamed me for my choices and always supported everything I did and I will always <3 her for it.
Jen - Jen kept me safe during her HoH's, was someone i knew i could trust to at least keep me safe until close to the end, and even played strategically with me once Triple D + Jen was formed. It was clear that Dan was her #1 ally and Dan being part of Triple D benefited me.
Jun - Jun benefited me when it came to votes and numbers in the house. She wasn't active enough to talk strategy but I knew she had my back until close to the end.
Dan - Super fun to talk to and his closeness with Jen definitely helped when it came to numbers. He was 1/3 of triple D and us together made it to the end.
2. Similarities: Libra seemed to play like Libra and went as far as to get evicted after Jessie and be first juror just like Libra. Also seemed chill like Libra.
Brian had plans for a good game but his plans never panned out to fruition, much like Brian's real game.
Scott is hard to answer because I didn't watch the season Scott was on, lol. I'm sorry I can't answer this fully but I'll say that you positioned yourself well in an alliance but it didn't work out for you because too many kinks in it.
Angie is like Angie because she's chill and doesn't seem to overly stress. She avoided drama and besides venting to me when things would go crazy she was cool and collected. She left the house with grace.
Jen was like the real Jen because she was good at competitions and had a social game going much like Jen did at the beginning of BB9. It didn't work for the real Jen as she threw her boyfriend under the bus but the Jen in urtv4 really knew her game.
Jun was like the real Jun because she tended to float her way along and let others be targets over her. She aligned herself with who she felt was the strongest competitor (Dani) and this benefited her. She floated between alliances and made it pretty damn far.
Dan is like the real Dan because he's well liked by most people and was a competition threat like the real Dan. He was in an alliance that worked for him and he was loyal like the real Dan. He didn't make as much enemies with his decisions as the real Dan but was still a great player.
Daniele is like the real Daniele because she was great at competitions which helped take her to the end. She also makes second place look good! Completely joking, haha. Daniele is a great player like the real Daniele. I can't compare her socially because I didn't watch BB8.
I am like the real David because I'm all about a good time and making people laugh. That's what i determine as the basic point in these games. Make em fun.
3. Angie for Final 2 Angie should be here because she's a phenomenal person who is super trustworthy, had a great social game, and made it far. I know for a fact she shares the same exact values as I do when it comes to ORGs about them just being games and the friendships being what matters. If she managed to make it to the end without a single mean bone in her then she definitely would have deserved to win. I've made it obvious to people that I <3 her, lol.
4.Gameplay (best to worst): 1. Dan was in my opinion the best juror. He had a strong social game and even though he was a target from early on made it to final 3 past all his enemies. He made an alliance at the right time which helped him get far and after that made it so the people remaining didn't want him targeted.
2. Jen was close behind. Jen had a VERY strong social game. It was strong enough to be on my radar and make me worried about her presence. I knew no one would target her and thought that she'd make it all the way to the end. When i evicted her, it felt like the last opportunity i would have.
3. Angie I believe was next on the list for gameplay. She was a very loyal player and friendly so it made her not be a target. Her social gameplay made it so there was always a target ahead of her.
4. Scott was next. You were a good player because you kicked up your social game and formed a massive alliance that basically protected you. Had the twist not happened I believe that Brian would have left before you and maybe by then we could have fixed the little problem of me not wanting to backdoor Dan. The speed of the game made it hard to work fast enough to get over things fast enough.
5. Jun was 5th. She didn't make many enemies but her inactivity stifled her social game. There were a lot of people who complained about her still being in the game because she didn't seem to do much. What she did right was aligning with the right people to get her far.
6. Brian places here on the list. He had the steps to do well but didn't because people didn't trust him. Without trust you can't get far in a game and so you go.
7. Libra wasn't active enough to form great game strategic moves. She was in the 7 and relied on it and it was her downfall. Her inability to be active, though understandable, definitely makes it hard for you to succeed in the game.
5. Liked (Best to Worst):
1. Angie. I could tell her everything and still talk to her and am sure will continue talking to her for a very long time. She's like the best alliance person ever and outside of the game is a sweet person.
2. Dan. I talk to him like everyday and even after i helped evict him first in 5658 he was still cool with me. He doesn't hold the game against me and is a great guy.
3. Jen. Ricky! I've heard so much about him but never really got to play with him. Ricky as Jen was definitely a surprise and I give mad kudos for the act. I'm sure i'll keep running into jen and have no mad feelings or anything.
4. Jun. I know Jun from sbb. I have to say that her presence tends to worry me. Right after I revealed myself to her, though... we started talking and I really like her. She's chill and a funny person. Definitely enjoyed FINALLY getting to talk to her after 3 games together, haha.
5. Brian. While Brian was in the game I didn't really like him, lol. I was afraid he was lying and couldn't trust him. After he was evicted I got a chance to talk to him (nongame related) and he seems like a pretty chill guy. He shares my value of only disliking those who you feel dislike you.
6. Scott. Heh, I've sensed you've hated me since I evicted you. I thought you were going to be bitter at me everywhere. We basically haven't talked since the eviction and so nothing was really settled. I did go through a phase where i disliked you but then had to laugh at myself for not liking you just cuz i felt you didn't like me. You say you won't be bitter with me elsewhere so I definitely look forward to actually getting to talk to you outside of the games we're in but until then I place you here.
7. Libra. I definitely liked Libra when I was in the house. I didn't get to talk to her tremendously because of her being busy but when i did talk i definitely enjoyed it. The reason I am ranking her low is just because of how her question surprised me. I hope i'll be able to talk to her after the game but that's up in the air as it's completely up to her.
and LOL about PCP threat! *kicks you.* I'm happy you said that you won't hold ithis game against me elsewhere. That really means a lot. Thanks. I hope the above answered your question. I may have missed a part of a question and if i did feel free to reask it and i'll make sure to answer.
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