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Post by Big Brother on Nov 13, 2008 1:58:20 GMT -5
I was supposed to make this in the final three, but was too busy with the endurance stuff and whatnot. Anywho, this is just as good.
Please use this thread to debate who should win the final two. Talk about your feelings on both pre-questions and post-questions.
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Post by Dan Gheesling on Nov 13, 2008 2:06:05 GMT -5
Anyway like I said a before it's basically:
Social butterfly vs fierce bitch
I'm leaning towards more the competition threat right now, but there would have been NO TripleDee in Final 3 if it wasn't for David being the ultimate mole for Daniele and I. He found out Scott's plans and Daniele and I beat Scott to the punch.
They're games were both amazing. And please, let's not be bitter douchebags. Brian, this is the part where we vote who. played. a. good. game. Undeeerstand? o.o
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Post by Angie on Nov 13, 2008 8:15:07 GMT -5
Daniele is so damn good at competitions, it freakn scared the living daylights out of me LMAO.
But then... David did throw some competitions and when he went all out, he was every bit of a beast as Daniele.
David had so many allies lol, me included. I would have never nominated him. What you said in the last thread is true, he was the social butterfly. Why is it that i was threatened by Daniele on week 3 exactly? it's because i hardly ever said a word to her. So David wins the social aspect of the game by a mile.
As for comps, i think they're even now, no?
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Post by Dan Gheesling on Nov 13, 2008 17:20:43 GMT -5
Mhm, I totally agree. I really think they both deserve it, games completely different. David seemed overly friendly to where that's solely what his game is based off of the "nice-guy" and he does ONE hell of a job at it, no matter how REAL he says it is; he was brilliant at it.
Daniele just did whatever she wanted and didn't care who's toes she stepped on. With saying that, she seemed stubborn tho, and was a competition whore. I still need to think of my questions.
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Post by Angie on Nov 13, 2008 17:51:02 GMT -5
daniele basically said in her opening statement that she threw that last part of the hoh, do u believe her?
to be honest, i dont think i do. it makes sense for david to have won it... seeing as how he got to know most of us better than she ever even tried to. don't get me wrong here, i think she's great and actually, i never had anything against her other than the fact that she was obviously close to one of my closest allies and was a beast at the competitions.
she is so right too. she said my biggest mistake was nominating her against jun, but like david, i couldnt bring myself to nominate any other two people, including jen... and obviously i didn't know about your alliance with daniele and david.. had i known, i would have nominated u and daniele.
soooo, basically i think daniele's opening statement was pretty good. it was revealing about how everything went down and it confirmed what i already knew (that david told her about the 7). i figured it out only on week 4, but i just let it go because i felt like david had my back through it all.
i dont know if david knew this, but i knew he and daniele were really close. he always seemed to know things about her and what she was going to do. i did want her gone, but i couldnt win vetos and not only that... she was a beast at them.
i think david's opening statement was also very good. for someone who had many alliances, he still managed to get to the end with 2 out of his 3 closest ones. he stayed close enough to people to never get nominated up until final 4 when nominations dont mean much anyway.. and like he said, as soon as he felt he was becoming a threat to someone, he found a way to get rid of them.
and yeah, i havent decided on my questions either.
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Post by Libra Thompson on Nov 13, 2008 18:02:18 GMT -5
Well I got my questions ready lol. I've been out of the game the longest here, and from what I've gathered, I'm glad I was out so early. I played an honest and upfront game, and every conversation I had with everyone was heartfelt and honest. Too bad everyone else had to lie about being friendly.
So David played a social game, Daniele a competition game. Daniele was more straightforward, and David was more of a snake in the grass. In my book, they're pretty much even. It's going to be very interesting.
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Post by Angie on Nov 13, 2008 18:10:41 GMT -5
well, daniele didnt have to lie because she was only social with her allies, lol.
if you're gonna be a social player, you're gonna HAVE to lie or risk getting evicted quickly.
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Post by Libra Thompson on Nov 13, 2008 18:12:23 GMT -5
Yea trust me I understand that fully lol
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Post by Angie on Nov 13, 2008 18:25:20 GMT -5
awww, lol.
i just think that was a major flaw in daniele's game. she didn't have a relationship with anyone other than david and dan.. and the relationship she had everyone else was sort of just there... a few words here and there. and if i am wrong, correct me lol.
david's game wasn't perfect either. he managed to be nice and kept himself off of people's lists, but once they got evicted.... not everyone's favorite thing to find out they've been played by mr. nice guy lol. and i agree, it comes off as him being fake, but i dont think so. he's always been a sweet person, so i do believe him.
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Post by Libra Thompson on Nov 13, 2008 18:28:34 GMT -5
Sweet people don't tend to stab you in the back though. But its not a sweet game. He was never nominated till the final four, and it wasn't because he won several competitions. Daniele only avoided eviction because she won challenges that kept her out of the hot seat so to speak. I can see why David had to pretend to be nice to everyone, because he was more vulnerable than Daniele was.
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Post by Libra Thompson on Nov 13, 2008 18:30:07 GMT -5
P.S. I just noticed Dan made 666 posts. I notice odd things like that lol
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Post by Dan Gheesling on Nov 13, 2008 18:32:14 GMT -5
lol Yeah, it did seem a little fishy to me that Daniele kind of implied she "threw" the competition, believe me that's going to be one of my questions for her. And next, I found out how about The Seven from Jen :] Sorry I had to lie about saying "Daniele and I figured out the seven on our own" lmao. idk. David was a snake I'm not gonna deny that, but he was mine and Daniele's snake so it was all good to me, I got nothing bad to say about him. God, I'm gonna go for a bit.
lol I need to think of questions.
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Post by Brian Hart on Nov 13, 2008 18:38:51 GMT -5
Don't talk to me like I'm a retarded you bimbo. I know which played the better game and I plan to give them my vote.  |
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Post by Jen Diturno on Nov 13, 2008 19:24:11 GMT -5
Lol. Jeez, you guys write too much-I don't enjoy reading  Anywho, I definitely think they both played an amazing game. I pretty much agree with all of the reasons stated above. I do, however, think Daniele deserves to win this game more. She was outcasted WEEK 1, while David was alligned with everyone. Daniele had the need to survive every single week, to get where she is now. I definitely think David kind of did slide by, from being nice. This is going to be tough :-\ |
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Post by Dan Gheesling on Nov 13, 2008 20:23:57 GMT -5
I have to dumb it down for ya' Brian ;D
loll. But anywayyy I agree with Jen there. Even though David was a smooth talker and he's a very social player and was able to use his relationships to get him where he's at, that's an EXCELLENT way to play the game, I just think that Daniele's deserves it more since, like Jen said, she was outcasted week 1 along with several other people. April and Sharon left, then it was Daniele and I in the next pecking order. The fact that Daniele WAS able to make it as far as she did without relying on relationships she had with people to help her through that game and win 5 competitions? idk. I'm still on the fence, but Daniele has proven to me at least that she played a much tougher game with all odds against her.
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